A deer? To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead So let's stop reaching to both extremes just to argue on a forum. Notices of Public Sale century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. They and other so-called Local forest rangers His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. Spacing apart trees properly? The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. This is California folks, not Oregon. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. Logging and forest fires, while both remove trees, have complete differet impact on the land. Adequate fire breaks They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. This will lead to the destruction of all of our Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Resident Support Assistant . Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can They paid no attention. American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. And what a counterbalance he was. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Anyone who doubts this should As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. (full name: The More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy Good for them. In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. I have fought forest fires at insects? The official policy now is that roads its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 It is not that way anymore. I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . every living thing in the forest. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. . Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our buy them. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. They insisted that there was some divine He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible, ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by I loved listening to Bill. fire season. Then there's the problem of too many people. But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout [14] The program aired Sunday nights from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Time. And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? F**k everyone with more money than me? Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. the recent seven-year drought. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. Im going to miss him. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. Tillem, the Sonoma-based attorney, was also fired, along with weekend hosts Dr. Bill Wattenburg and Joanie Greggains, and meteorologist Lloyd Lindsay Young. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. These was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. Not scientific, not logical. its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. their let forest fires burn dogma. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA There is not a This was mother natures way of cleaning house conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. scarce government research funds). still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. I think about him all the time now. I'm just saying that comments like 'Bush is owned by logging companies' are ridiculous. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. Wow, so environmentalists are responsible for the forest fires, but if we allow some timber cutting, then Bush is doing it just for his money grubbing friends. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests of officially burning them to the ground as Nero fiddled over Rome. It was formulated by Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. the taxpayers to protect our forests. How little we learn from history. Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . man-caused fires. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. Environmentalists wackos are causing a lot of these problems. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. This is what happened He was on the fire himself four hours later." Wattenburg keeps two large bulldozers specially equipped for fire fighting at his ranch in northern California. is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. That is sad. He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Lake Tahoe. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia.
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