They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. They are my choice for the heaviest loads especially with cast bullets weighing 300 grains and heavier. The company also distributes IMR and Winchester powders as well as Goex black powder. sets maximum standards for cartridges; this standard must be set at a level safely usable in the weakest common denominator. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2021. The .45 Colt operates at notably less pressure, produces a slower, more. Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, State Agency: They often equal or surpass the accuracy from my carefully tailored hand-cast bullets. The .45 Colt was soon loaded with smokeless powders with loads eventually standardized with 250- and 255-grain lead hollowbase bullets from Remington and Winchester, respectively, at around 870 fps, but today are listed at 860 fps. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The powder that has the lowest velocities are produced by Trailboss which also has the advantage of filling up the 45LC case. With my alloys this bullet runs around 280 to 285 grains while at the same time having a slightly shorter nose than the original Keith design so it fits in all Colt cylinders. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. What the John Wick is 9mm Major, Anyway. For something with more thump, it would be wise to find some published load data and buy some bullets that match that data. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Over the past 35 years all four of these leverguns have shot extensively with both jacketed and cast bullets. A roll crimp is generally preferred and should be applied as heavily as the bullets crimp groove or cannelure will permit. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Unique and Universal still dont fill the case up as much as a yet slower powder (like No.9, AA5724, H-110/W296, AA5744, and Alliant 2400). Below you'll find some basic data for each cartridge to help get you started. Using bullets from . in pistol calibers than the old. Bullseye is a bit fast for this big cartridge and I dont especially recommend it, but it will work. When using bullets designed for the .45 ACP that dont have a crimp cannelure, a taper crimp applied after bullets are seated to the correct overall length is the best option. It's always had a great reputation as a man stopper. My brass of choice is Starlines excellent 45 Colt brass with CCI 300 Large Pistol primers for all powders, except I switch to CCI 350 Magnum Pistol primers with IMR 4227, H110, W296, and all black powder and black powder substitutes. These two bullets in a custom five-shot Blackhawk or Freedom Arms Model 83 five-shooter can be driven to 1,450 fps with W296 or H110. These Smith & Wesson .45 Colts include a (1) Model 25-5 with 838-inch barrel, (2) Model 25-5 with 6-inch barrel, (3) Model 25-5 with 4-inch barrel and a (4) Model 625-6 Mountain Gun with a tapered 4-inch barrel. HS7 is slowest of the group (Similar to 2400) With the coming of Rugers Blackhawk chambered in 45 Colt in the early 1970s, we finally had a sixgun that could tap the tremendous potential of the 45 Colt cartridge. For comparison the above .44 Magnum factory loads (which are admittedly conservative) have a TKO factor only slightly higher at 17.35. For several years Smith & Wesson cut throats at 0.455 inch or even larger, but now they seem to be running at a more proper 0.451 to 0.452 inch. I certainly dont know of anything in the lower 48 that cannot be handled with this load. barrel differ from a 4 4/5 revolver by New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Reloader 7 - 37.0 grains start, 39.0 grains max. In ranking the various 45 Colt sixguns now in production from the least strongest to that capable of a handling the heaviest loads, I would set the following order. The other problem, that of cylinder throat diameters, centers around the fact that they vary considerably. The larger diameter ring that sizes the lower half of the case provides longer case life and eliminates the typical swaged bulge just ahead of the solid head. Cast RCBS 45-270-SAA bullets are generally loaded to an overall length of 1.650 inches to not over 1.655 inches, utilizing the full length of the Colt cylinder. The vast majority of my 45 Colt handloads over the last 60 years, however, has been put together with cast bullets. The final level includes custom five-shot Rugers and the Freedom Arms Model 83. It is clear why the .45 Colt had such a stellar reputation as a man stopper and for its effectiveness on game. This brings us to powders, and I use a lot of Hodgdon powders. For many decades reloaders have been arguing over whether or not H110 and W296 were identical. In fact, an axiom with me is, When all else fails, try IMR 4227 before giving up. Years ago, after tiring of oversized 45 Colt chambers in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and New Frontiers, I started with a 357 Magnum New Frontier, had the cylinder rechambered properly and tightly to 45 Colt, and then had a new 4.75-inch Colt New Frontier barrel fitted. I prefer to use 250-grain jacketed bullets in conjunction with +P loads, which is a subject for another day. Purchase A PDF Download Of The GUNS Magazine February 2021 Issue Now! (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Be very careful using the loads for Ruger and T/C (Thompson Contender) as these are maximum loads, even for these strong guns. But the 45 Colt is a survivor. If cast soft enough they can also slug up to create a gas seal, which helps reduce fusion and barrel leading. Cast bullet loads in the Marlin .45 Colt all the power and accuracy You may wish to peruse the list of cartridges first as many times the difference in 45-70 and 45/70 may mean finding data or drawing a blank. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: Over the nearly 15 decades since its arrival, there have been many attempts to pronounce it dead. Those first Winchesters were 16 Trapper Models, with mine being purchased in 1985. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: On paper, the 357 Magnum was the first cartridge to exceed the 45 Colts muzzle energy, but many knowledgeable sixgunners, Elmer Keith included, believed the 45 Colt actually offered more practical power than the First Magnum. Today, it remains one of our most popular sixgun cartridges. Published .45 Colt rifle data tends to use the same medium burning powders as non Ruger .45 Colt revolver data, with 255 gr bullet velocities around 1100 fps - about 200 fps faster than in a revolver. Moving up to the second level, loads at around 1,000 fps with the same-weight bullet are used in the Colt New Frontier, Smith & Wesson Model 25/625, Ruger Flat-Top New Model, and the Ruger New Vaquero. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. You can certainly use the Jacketed bullets fine, but dont look for incredible speeds. I would conclude this powder is much more consistent in speeds than others that I have tried in the .45 Colt. from virtually all manufacturers including Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Great Western, USFA and Uberti. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: These two examples were produced in 1875 (left) and 1887 (below). I use the same industry measurement as the .45 ACP .470 inch. Members 4.5k Gender:Male Location:Dolores, Colorado Interests:All types of shooting, hunting, fishing, camping. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6, HS7 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. The Judge has been promoted! Elmer Keiths custom Colt single action was used to develop his heavy 44 Special loads in the late 1920s, and for a long time the 45 Colt cartridge was accused of being weak. I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be. John makes up dummy loads using available cast bullets to make Actually, we can divide 45 Colt sixguns into several reloading levels, and I have moderated these somewhat over the past several years, with the first two levels being very close together. Want to practice more with that big-bore hunting rifle or enjoy that magnum pistol more at the range? Lyman has a 255 grain .45 Colt gas-checked bullet, #454490GC, that was designed by Ray Thompson who also brought forth the .357 Magnum #358156GC and the .44 Magnum #431244GC. When tactical lights first came out, we all thought the 50 lumens they offered was astounding and could never get better. We are blessed to have many excellent cartridges and sixguns available to us, but it would be hard to find any cartridge that is as versatile as the old 45 Colt. New Mexico Department of Game & Fish, State Agency: The original loading was a bullet of approximately 255 grains with a muzzle velocity of somewhere around 850 to 900 fps. 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The SCAR 15P is chambered for 5.56 NATO and, with its 7.5-inch barrel, is the most compact SCAR to date. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP,Hornady250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. When loaded in the Colt Single Action Army at around 850 fps, it is a most powerful everyday working load. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. A favorite pastime of many dedicated sixgunners is sitting around a campfire arguing the merits of their particular choice of caliber. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start, unless it is lesser of several loads or other indications like mild or cowboy etc.) Today the throats of most Colt revolvers measure .457 to .458 inch, which is the same dimension used by Smith & Wesson during the late 1970s, Uberti and others. In the event that a bullet walks out of the case slightly from recoil, Brian suggests an overall cartridge length that is at least .010 to .015 inch below flush with the end of the cylinder. I use WLP primers. Pyrodex P is the equivalent of Triple-F or FFFg black powder. They often equal or surpass the accuracy from my carefully tailored hand-cast bullets. When Ray Thompson was designing his line of bullets, he did not neglect the 45. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. Some people have tried to load the .45 Colt to levels of the .44 Magnum. I found the following heavyweight bullets all would work through both the Winchester and Marlin actions: NEI 310 Keith, NEI 325 Keith, Lyman #454629GC 300-grain FN, RCBS #45-270 SAA weighing around 284 grains with my alloy, and I also checked the #454490GC design by Ray Thompson, which is a 255-grain Keith-style gas-checked bullet. Space constraints keep me from looking at all of these powders in depth, but I can cover a few. The minimum load for a 200 gr cast SWC in 45 Colt is listed as 8.6 gr Unique for 918 fps. In slugging the barrels of later pre-World War II guns with wider flat lands, serial numbers 347xxx (1924) and 355xxx (1936), along with two factory. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, State Agency: .45 Colt Rifle Data (Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th Edition) reloading data with 0 loads. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: It shoots VERY well, the recoil is tolerable, and it cuts a clean hole in both targets and small game. The Freedom Arms Model 97 also is in this group. The day of the percussion revolver would soon be over, and even Colt could see the future and began converting 1860 cap-and-ball sixguns to fire cartridges. It is loaded not by weight, but by volume. hi guy, for awhile now i have slowly been adding to my collection,,i just got 2 molds, a rcbs 255 grain ,,and a lyman 325 grain gc,,,i got the dies, the powder, had dale put my name on miha list for his 45 long colt hollow point mold, ,i have some brass, i got the dies,, but still looking for that one 45 long colt gun. For loading black powder 45 Colt loads, I use Goex as well as Pyrodex and Triple Seven. Both of these are plainbased Keith-style bullets, and their numbers are #310.451 and #325.454, with the first three digits giving the approximate bullet weight. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Later production revolvers and lever action rifles are built with .451 diameter grooves., This statement has been repeated many times but holds very little truth. However, when using soft swaged-lead bullets, an expander ball around .002 inch smaller than bullet diameter is preferred. This revolver is fitted with a new line-bored cylinder that is tightly chambered with .452-inch throats, a .003-inch barrel/cylinder gap and the forcing cone cut to 11 degrees. The original Winchesters, whether chambered in .44 Rimfire or .44-40, all used cast bullets as jacketed bullets did not start appearing until the early part of the 20th century. Survival, Banned, Training, Load, reloading, powder Collection folkscanomy_defense; folkscanomy; additional_collections Language English. Normal powders vary quite a bit and also have a larger spread between shots. The proud tradition and history of Lyman Products began simply in the late 1800?s when William Lyman, an avid outdoorsman and inventor, created a product that resolved problems with gun sights of his day. Smith & Wesson revolver throats have varied significantly. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. A check of Hodgdons loading manuals shows these two powders using the same charge weight produce the same velocities and pressures. In preparation for this article, I pulled from my personal collection a Colt SAA with serial number 16xxx (1875) that slugged an average groove diameter of .450 inch. Contrary to what has been traditionally published, records indicate that early loads from Frankford Arsenal contained a copper case loaded with a 250-grain, roundnose flatpoint lead bullet pushed with 30 grains of black powder, with additional charge weights soon added. Custom five-shooters built on the Ruger Blackhawk, the Ruger Redhawk, and the Freedom Arms Model 83 top the list. Before I discuss handloads for the 45 Colt, we have to acknowledge there exists such a wide range of revolvers accepting the 45 Colt that great care must be used in assembling loads and choosing which guns will safely accept them. The .44 Magnum is a great cartridge that offers a flatter trajectory and helps to make hits easier at longer distances; however, this added performance comes at the cost of greater pressures, heavier guns, increased recoil and muzzle report. The individual accessing this site assumes the risk of safe loading practices. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Again, a groove diameter of .451 to .452 inch remains standard by all manufacturers. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. I have found HS-6, Universal, and W231 powders work very well for standard loads, while IMR 4227 bulks up nicely in 45 Colt brass. El Hombre Sin Nombre Members 6.3k Gender:Male Location:Oakland, CA SASS# 101096 Richmond Roughriders, Coyote Valley Cowboys, Faultine Shootist Society,Two Rivers Posse, River City Regulators Posted February 18, 2017 By this time Winchester had changed its name to USRAC (United States Repeating Arms Co.) and the Trappers were offered in two versions, a blued receiver or a case-colored receiver. I have found two things necessary gas checks and hard alloys, also in most cases muzzle velocities over 1,200-1,300 fps. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and personal loads where noted. The accompanying data was developed using Starline cases that are strong, offer long life and are available factory direct. Instead of being overly large, Rugers have been way too tight, with some measuring around 0.449 inch, but now Ruger is cutting all cylinder throats at 0.451 to 0.452 inch. SCCY DVG-1 Sub-Compact Striker-Fired Pistol: Full Review, Buyer Beware: Buying 'Bargain' Guns Can Be Risky. Do Pistols Benefit From Popular Aftermarket Modifications? Although far from perfect, the old Taylor Knock Out (TKO) formula, which is caliber x bullet weight x velocity 7,000, is far more accurate. However, Dick Casull started with the 45 Colt single action and the weak 45 Colt case to come up with his cartridge, which eventually became the 454 Casull. Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) has established the maximum average pressure for .45 Colt at 14,000 psi (commonly referred to as standard pressure), which should only be used in guns originally designed for smokeless powder ammunition. This same bullet can be loaded to much higher velocity in Rugers large-frame single- and double-action sixguns. It should be crimped over the ogive and seated to an overall cartridge length of around 1.575 inches, which helps reduce case capacity and results in lower extreme spreads with powders that tend to be position sensitive. However, when using versions that weigh 250 grains, it is sometimes difficult to reach high enough velocities to achieve reliable expansion while staying within industry pressure guidelines. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Deployed military should use stateside address. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. Deployed military should use stateside address. (NOTE: Sections marked Ruger Only are not for the New Model Blackhawk Flat-Tops or the New Vaquero!) Meet the all-new Taurus Judge Executive Grade, a revolver featuring a hand-polished satin finish, presentation-grade wood grips, a brass rod front sight and an exceptional hand-tuned trigger. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. 2020, Lyman Products Corporation, printed in U.S.A. All other trademarks in this catalog are the property of their respective owners. For developing the accompanying data, a 1970 vintage (second generation) Colt New Frontier SAA with 5.5-inch barrel was. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: It follows Keiths original idea of three equally sized driving bands, one forming the base, the middle one serving as the top of the grease groove, and the front driving band helping true up the bullet in the cylinder and is located above a generous crimping groove. The performance level is pretty close to the original Black Powder load but far more effective due to the bullet I use. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. Exactly the same grain size as with powder N320, N330 and N350 - only the porosity of the powder changes.The burning rate of the N340 is at the medium scale of Vihtavuori handgun powders - and as with powder N320, with N340 extremely clean burning and . (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Their 10mm Devastator (Lyman #401638 HP) has a listed weight of 155 grains, and is a HP version of their very accurate 175 grain TC design. These can be safely driven to 1,200 fps in the Ruger Blackhawk. about 175 fps and from 7 1/2 by 50 fps. Many early black-powder-era Colt revolvers (1873-1898) feature .449- to .452-inch throats that corresponded reasonably with .450- to .452-inch barrel groove diameters. Vermont Fish & Wildlife Department, State Agency: No purchase necessary. sure they will feed and chamber through levergun actions. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: This brings us to powders, and I use a lot of Hodgdon powders. The only 456 bullet I am aware of is a conical made for Ruger Old Armys, so Lyman saying that is the right bullet for 45 Colt makes no sense. It has never failed me. The .45 Colts origins started in 1871 when Colt began designing a new sixgun specifically to house metallic cartridges. Universal is an excellent powder for the 45 Colt with 8.0 grains under a 250-grain bullet duplicating the old black powder load. Instead of being overly large, Rugers have been way too tight, with some measuring around 0.449 inch, but now Ruger is cutting all cylinder throats at 0.451 to 0.452 inch. I load 7.5gr of HP38 in Starline brass and crimp in the crimp groove of each of these bullets. Most manufacturers have recognized the need to offer revolvers with correct throat dimensions including Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Uberti, USFA and others, but not Colt. Powders include The weight would more properly be closer to 32 grains. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM March 2022, P.O. Note: Powder Mfgs. There simply is not much that cannot be accomplished with the 45 Colt. However, in those long-gone days I was able to find two Winchester Trappers both in .45 Colt and the Marlin versions in both calibers mentioned. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: All entries must be received by giveaway end date. This lets it feed in many cowboy-action guns and use common 45 ACP load data.
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