Awesome concept, wish it'd been executed differently. Will update when I get my Deadair Wolfman. I want one of these but not until they are squared away. Im extremely excited to hopefully put some rounds through one eventually. Accuracy has been good not great, but Im still getting used to the short LOP of the brace. I paired with a Holosun 507 series from Midway. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. LWRC International SMG 45 ACP 25 Round Capacity SMGPB45B8S - $2899 LWRC's ingenuity has produced yet another awesome platform in a caliber that you have to love. 3-5 rds shot and stove pipe. PISTOL CALIBER PERFECTION. Yet, it still fired when the time came. inclined who could definitely screw this process up I'm hoping something as simple as this Is part of the problem . Its junk. Colt found that strategy to be unproductive. It has been punished and torture tested in the harshest environment's, to guarantee that it will not fail when you need it most. Its a delayed blowback system that will suppress well if the gun works as advertised. Final verdict: Because of its construction, the SilencerCo Omega 45K is a great suppressor for either PCCs or handguns. Products [6] Sort by: Quick View. It comes with two US-made UMP magazines that can easily be found for stockpiling. The new LWRCI SMG-45 is an extremely nice looking and feeling, high quality firearm. I like it more each time I take it out. It didnt work out so well. My buddy bought one. The result is an extremely high damage per shot for an engineer weapon, as well as increased damage multipliers to the limbs and a slightly increased damage multiplier to the head. It uses a delayed blowback recoil system and has very light recoil compared to your typical 9mm AR. As awesome as these seem, I let mine go. Played with it a bit and realized the follower was "catching" and "chattering" instead of moving up smoothly. The accuracy and the butt stock being set down slightly are the only things he disliked from the whole package . The LWRC SMG-45 is a unique Submachine Gun that fires a larger .45 caliber cartridge, similar to its predecessor, the H&K UMP. The SMG-45 was released at the end of 2019 but at SHOT 2020 LWRC had more to say about the platform. Its not really my cup of tea but I doubt the price will be that high forever. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. So I guess the accuracy issue is not the bolt. Extremely smooth shooting 45 ACP. Brand new never fired LWRC SMGPB45B8S SMG .45 ACP 8.50" 25+1 Black Hard Coat Anodized SB Tactical Folding Subgun Brace Stock, with Holosun AEMS sight. HK bUMP Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. ), yes Ive looked at the b&t but it just looks awful to me . The SCOTUS decision in NY State Rifle & Pistol Assoc v. Bruen does not have any relevance to the new ATF rule. Dumped the LWRCi. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. MAGPUL LWRC 6.8mm 30rd PMAG - Black. Yeah, games sell guns and get people into firearms. Also didn't seem to like plated bullets, and if I'm not mistaken the bolt carrier actually cracked and was messing with the way it functioned. . Dont tell me about the top sold of anything. Cant say enough good things about it. The first one, was one of the first produced and it had some issues with magazine pressure and failures to feed. Cool gunhaving one would just make me wish it was an UMP though. Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. If any of you are looking for quality mags, HKparts just got more German HK UMP 45s magazines in. Comes with two magazines. I shoot with a SilencerCo Omega 45K (with Neilsen/Booster) and sight is a Vortex AMG UH1 and it's totally solid at 10 yards, 25 yards, 50 yards, and I've even had some fun hitting 24"x24" steel plates at 200 yards (about a 50% hit rate). The long-awaited LWRC SMG-45 arrived this month in a Gun Shop near you. It would be a shame not to shoot it suppressed. Clear editor. What does this offer over that? Its a .45 ACP subgun that takes HK UMP magazines. The SMG 45 is exhibiting a problem the LWRC knows about, and now the market does too. For 3k price, I will go for a top of the line Wilson Combat AR pistol that takes glock mag AND with the rest of the money get a Glock 19 that also takes Glock mag. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Now they pass on the cost to the citizen. The mags are the issue to me. Probably. Both mags worked flawlessly, but accuracy at about 20 yards was rubbish. Every shot is super-fun. Hell, I just got the new gun itch I guess. They developed the gun for the government. Thanks! Look at the no-name guy who got a million hits for his new Python failing video. Secondly, it does NOT stop the rounds rattling in the magazine though its not quite as bad as before. pscipio03 Fun O' Meter on FULL Joined Mar 11, 2013 I saw the same video this afternoon as well. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Pretty sweet but lots of issues. There are plenty of awesome PCC options on the market at 2/3 1/3 of that. LWRC SMG- 45ACP 25RD 8.5" PISTOL SB TACTICAL FOLDING BRACE Gun #: 913349227 Seller: ThreeNailsArmory GA Sales: 17 $2,835.00 Full Details 4 Image (s) LWRC SMG-45 (SMGPB45B8S) Pistol Gun #: 951319024 Seller: Jays Guns and Accessories GA Sales: 11329 $3,999.99 Full Details More from this Seller 3 Image (s) Now I have to fight her for it during couple shoots. The first batch of the much anticipated LWRCI SMG .45 has shipped earlier this week. Been excited about this weapon since seeing early reports back in 2016. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. But it doesnt mean those are particularly good beers just because theyre sold in massive quantities. Cosmohumanist Friends, a major seller in AZ appears to be liquidating 10.5" DIs for a huge discount. First few times taking apart and putting back together were painful but OK now that I know the tricks. SMG .45 FEATURES: Fully Ambidextrous lower controls: AR Selector, bolt catch, grip and hammer/trigger allows easy operation for right or left handed shooters Innovative Paddle Style Mag release. (gen 2) If so has the gun be reliable and accurate? 2 mags are USA made and 2 mags are German made. I saw the video from NRAAM with the rep, this SMG started as a solicitation which never went throughat the point the deal fell through, it should have been immediately reconfigured for 9MM. . Your link has been automatically embedded. The invoice lists the following changes: Also got mine back this week . also got the coupon. Garand Thumb did a review and he hated it. I'm glad to gear it's shooting well for someone. During firing and the initial steps . It has been operating flawlessly right out of the gate and seems to eat anything from regular target rounds to my duty carry +P rounds consistently without any issues. Pics/specs/details? You will receive a link to create a new password via email. In my occupation with my team we needed something to fill the role between pistol and long gun so I have experience with a wide range of sub guns, but being left handed I always had to compromise with certain features and most platforms I used and trained with tended to have ambi controls that just seemed to be added as an afterthought. This gun comes with 4 x 25 round magazines. $30.00. The gun will not group better than 6 to 8 inch groups at 25yrds. LWRC. It was rusty and ill-maintained. Interesting, were you running a piston/nielsen device on your suppressor? AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I just took mine out today for the third time .multiple shooters .multiple types of ammo .bench rest conditions 10.15 and 25 yards and Im getting 7 inch groups at 25 yards has anyone else had the same problem with this gun? As far as the value, if it was in 9X19 Id agree with you, but its not. Meet the first model in the SMG Family - the new LWRCI SMG .45 Pistol + SB Tactical Brace. I know its not gonna be some precision shooter but I also dont want to have absolutely terrible groups at 20 yards, Im waiting for mine to be sent back from LWRC was having feeding issues with the v1 mags with or without my sil co osprey With booster even disassembled the can and cleaned and oiled the booster with the same results never got a chance to check accuracy since the first test was so disappointing that I immediately sent it back they claimed they will test with an osprey I hope they test accuracy as well since they now know its a problem SN 15xx. Please enter your username or email address. Quick View. I LOVE LOVE LOVE this PCC. RF knew all about this line of getting people into guns which is why he originally wanted game reviews for TTAG, along with some other techno based stuff to get people, especially younger people into the 2A community. I dont think LWRC will sell a lot of them at that price, but its worth it, at least to me. At least with a muffler all you get is old guys who tell you its illegal but since they think its illegal they dont want to play with it. Fit, finish, and design are fantastic (though for the consumer market I could have gone for M-LOK slots rather than LWRCs own attachment system). Mags are $60 from LWRC but UMP mags appear to be available elsewhere for around $45. Speaking of backpack guns and PDWs, the collapsible length of a mere 15.3 inches with its SB tactical folding brace provides the handler high concealability. I first shot it with the 15rd mag and suppressed with a AAC Tirant 45M. By This has never been shot. It looks nice indeed. I've only taken it out once. It arrived back in my grubby hands today. Would be a lot more attractive at 1.5k range. Training especially Medical. I really want one or these just a little nervous from issues people had with the gen 1s. LWRCI Enhanced Fire Control Group. My brother who is an Engineer also fired it- and no issues with zeroing in at 25 yards using a Holosun HS510C sight. Im sure there are a lots of people who arent very mechanically inclined who could definitely screw this process up Im hoping something as simple as this Is part of the problem . Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. I have a UMP clone built off an Omega Shadow upper that runs great. Easy take down and assembly. Meet the first model in the SMG Family - the new LWRCI SMG .45 Pistol . The issues poping up are a bit worrisome but I'm sure LWRC will get it straightened out. This is a great shooting little gun.. Classifieds 258 Location:Montgomery, Alabama Posted December 9, 2021 Article code SMGPB45B8S. Home protection? That's all I really wanted. Sounds stupid, but IME, its something that attracts a certain kind of idiot and, if you get one, guess who you end up attracting? Crown version of the LWRC SMG-45. PASS. Im just concerned about the accuracy. Add To Cart. But again. For starters, the short recoil delayed blowback operating system provides the shooter a softer shooting weapon and fewer parts wear than cheaper PCC offerings. Im sure Im not alone. Garand Thumb is pretty neutral and at least he is transparent with any relationship he may have with whoever's product he is testing. All Rights Reserved. In full auto, the best I could do was 4-5 round bursts. Fantastic trigger. Keeping the ergonomic traits from the AR platform and 000 UPC: 850006403509 MPN: SMGPB45B8S Cookie Notice It is multicaliber and I'm told there will be a 9mm conversion in the future. I shoot suppressed almost exclusively in order to save what little hearing I have left. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What are the hives' thoughts on this platform? ALL of them were having stove pipe issues. Mine runs fine with and without my Obsidian 45. We both shot 1 inch groups from the standing position. Well, probably not near you, but it is just a click away here at GUNPRIME. The Vector is just the new hotness. That is awesome. Been badgering my local dealer to find me one when no one could find them. HKUMPUMP45. Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. High end shit that works. December 9, 2021 in Pistol Caliber Carbine. Love the .45 round, the size and weight of the rig. Follow Our Other Media Pages: @rshgungroup Show more LWRC SMG 45 Overview 4.7K views 1 year ago 9mm vs 45 ACP, WE END THE. Or have they paused it to work on the fix? Keep those in mind, and follow the online videos, and eventually you'll muscle through reassembly. Curious what Lwrc says, Just shot mine at 15 yards off a bag on a bench seated. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.9 lbs and . And the former is accomplished by other PCCs half the price. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. They fixed the accuracy issue. Mine has ran flawlessly for approximately 1500rds now, No accuracy issue for me, but the bolt shattered around 1,000 rounds. The CMMG Guard and Banshee also use a true delayed blowback. Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public. Pricey, but so much fun to shoot. Your email You could also buy 10 Hi Point carbines for that price, and in several different calipers of your choice. All Rights Reserved. Your friend will receive an email from you with a link to our site. The Hide Armory. I think you guys are right about many people owning them and not realizing there is accuracy issues maybe not seeing it of just blaming there own shooting or Ammo on bad groups and flyers . On anything with a longer than 6 barrel, I agree with you. I feel for the guys that are struggling with accuracy issues, but I'm not one of them. I'm waiting for one and hope that they eventually produce an upper in 10 mm and 9mm and even 40 SWif this works as good as I believe its potential, I believe that this PCC will have a bright future! After the eternal wait to finally get my fingers on it this is one amazing toy! Mags are back in stock at LWRCI, just grabbed 2 more! You can tell if you have the upgraded magazines by looking on the back of the magazine at the very bottom it will say V1, This is 25 yards in Benchrest conditions using Remington 230 gr. A .45 Subgun pistol I could SBR down the road. You must log in or register to reply here. Too many guns, not enough range time. The SMG 45's non-reciprocating charging handle folds flat and is easily swappable from left to right side. LWRL04-0056C01. Specifications: CALIBER: .45 ACP BARREL: 8.5"" Cold Hammer Forged Chromoly Steel Barrel WEIGHT: 5.9 lbs LENGTH: 15.25-26" MUZZLE THREADS: . I sure hope they get it figured out and soon. Dumped the LWRCi. It's an added bonus that it's coming from a company with great people that are very helpful if you ever have the pleasure to call them. What if they just used a set pin instead of a grub screw (or whatever type screw theyre using). Subbed to stay abreast of its development. For the commercial market it will be available in both SBR and SB Tactical pistol-braced pistol forms. April 29, 2019 at 23:33 It's hard to justify the utility in having more than one pistol and one rifle. Yeah I'm using the Neilson device that's standard on the AAC TiRant 45M. You are using an out of date browser. JavaScript is disabled. Update so shortly after I got my SMG-45, I started seeing flyers and accuracy issues (like in the Garand Thumb YouTube review). But when you can have those 25 rounds hanging off the gun just forward the trigger then youve drastically changed a factor in caliber choice. As you can see, the lower is marked MULTI-CAL, and LWRC says that conversions to at least 919 and possibly other calibers are on the way. Edited by BenelliHunter (01/11/23 08:27 PM) The blowback design really reduces recoil. We've been shooting it next to the new B&T APC9 Pro and I have to say the recoil is very similar. JavaScript is disabled. Never could understand pissing money away on expensive toys that sit on the shelf to be bragged about. I was hoping the delayed blow back would be less gassy but it is not. Double check the back of the mags. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking This is called a recoil operation, Jeremy. The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. I keep coming back to look at that picture. Compare prices for 850016966742 - LWRC SMG-45 45ACP BLK PISTOL SMGP45B8S from all vendors. Hell, it could have been a lengthy internal discussion, it could have been the head of the company likes 45 so much and scoffed at everyone else. 578-28 RH RIFLING: 1:16 RH | 6 Grooves Features: LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION LWRCI RAIL PANELS I had been trying to get one for several months and finally just called LWRCI best idea I ever had because they were so great. Quick View. I have the chance to get one in the next 6 days or so but I am very very very on the fence. Ill only buy delayed blow back. That dude just needs more traffic and web hits to drive revenue. meaning It easy to carry to any indoor range without any ammo limitations, shoots smooth for quick/lunchtime shoots, easy clean/maint. Mainly just another fun expensive range toy. Add To Cart. Are they still making these? Good Luck OP. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. So, got a surprise shipping email from LWRC this past wednesday. I elected to take the suppressor off and fine tune the zero. It's a great gun but we prefer the B&T APC45 to the LWRC SMG. I was really looking forward to buying one soon but now I'm going to have to hold off. They aren't the first to start trying to find a culprit part, tolerance, CNC machine, forge error, mold error, etc. Most are using barrels longer than common handguns and would really take advantage of the hotter chamberings by getting that much more velocity. This SMG has been shown at least since NRA 2016 in Louisville, theyve had plenty of opportunity to change to 9MM and go to M-LOK, especially considering its stratospheric (for a pistol caliber PDW) $3000 price tag. I have fed it everything from +P 185 gr, to handloaded 200 gr LSWC and 230 gr ball and it didn't skip a beat. LWRC SMG-45 By DK535, November 12, 2021 in Other Firearms & Non-NFA Reply to this topic Start new topic DK535 Forum Dabbler Members 3 14 posts Trader Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know if the SMG-45 is legal to own in NJ? Been following it since it was announced. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. If your the person who want suppressors on everything, then 45 ACP and 300 AAC are your favorite choices. Nice looking pcc/subgun! I hope that LWRC gets the kinks ironed out expeditiously. 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